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Star-E-Skies New Kid
Posts : 5 Join date : 2013-04-01
| Subject: General Plot or World Questions Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:52 pm | |
| I just wanted a space were people can ask simpler questions, especially ones that may have been answered in the comic already. |
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Star-E-Skies New Kid
Posts : 5 Join date : 2013-04-01
| Subject: Re: General Plot or World Questions Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:53 pm | |
| Do we know what Isaac's tool was? |
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Spidey Spectral
Posts : 952 Join date : 2013-03-31
| Subject: Re: General Plot or World Questions Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:04 pm | |
| Did they ever really tell us what the island was?
Isaac is possesed by a spirit he has no tool |
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Wealthy Lord Asssprite Paranaturalist
Posts : 1389 Join date : 2013-03-29
| Subject: Re: General Plot or World Questions Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:35 pm | |
| A different way to say it is that Isaac himself is the tool, if that helps you understand better. |
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Erie, Man of Danger Paranaturalist
Posts : 2026 Join date : 2013-03-26
| Subject: Re: General Plot or World Questions Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:42 pm | |
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Star-E-Skies New Kid
Posts : 5 Join date : 2013-04-01
| Subject: Re: General Plot or World Questions Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:13 am | |
| But didn't he have a tool at one point? The way I read it was the spectrals all have a tool and as time goes on they need the tool itself (like the spirit transfers from the tool to the kid) and Isaac is just farther along in the process than the other kids. - SpiderVoodoo wrote:
- Did they ever really tell us what the island was?
What island? |
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Wealthy Lord Asssprite Paranaturalist
Posts : 1389 Join date : 2013-03-29
| Subject: Re: General Plot or World Questions Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:14 am | |
| You've got that wrong! In actuality, a spirit, when near death, can inhabit either a spectral, assuming one is nearby, or any other object, at which point they must draw a spectral towards them. If they fail, they die for real, but if they succeed, then they can syphon spectral energy umtil they are once again able to manifest on their own, at which point it is likely they try to kill their host. The advantages to direct possession include having a greater degree of control over the host, but it is difficult to find a spectral without a tool near spirit death scenes. Spectrals who are possessed essentially function as both tool and spectral, and are reffered to as mediums. It is possible to host multiple spirits, but unlikely; it takes twice as long for each of them to reach manifestation, so its unllikely they will accept it. Additionally, they would probably cause conflicts when going into communion-time. It is probable that Max has either two spirits, or the one in his tool is so strong that it can assume control despite not possessing max directly. |
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maxwellpuckett New Kid
Posts : 6 Join date : 2013-03-24
| Subject: Re: General Plot or World Questions Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:59 am | |
| since max is the only one we've seen become a spectral, it's easy to assume that the way he becomes a spectral is how everyone does.
but i'm pretty sure you don't need a tool when you become a spectral, it just helps move the process along. max was seeing shades much longer than he'd been in contact with the bat, but having the bat with him helped him fully become a spectral.
isaac mentions many of the possible ways of becoming a spectral on ch1p64, but none of them mention having a tool or becoming possessed.
we'll probably see other people becoming spectrals sometime later, at which point the process will probably become solidified. |
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Wealthy Lord Asssprite Paranaturalist
Posts : 1389 Join date : 2013-03-29
| Subject: Re: General Plot or World Questions Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:57 am | |
| Yeah, theres a difference between a spectral (a human who can interact with the spirit world and gives off spectral energy while alive) and a spectral with a spirit parasiting off their energy. (the difference is that one has a spirit and thus spirit powers beyond minor spectral energy manipulation. a venn diagram of the two things would be a circle with a smaller circle in it. they dont undergo any changes that arent directly caused by their spirit they are just better in fights.) |
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Leo M. R. Spectral
Posts : 911 Join date : 2013-03-28
| Subject: Re: General Plot or World Questions Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:37 am | |
| Asssprite is correct. To make it simpler, let's break it down:
- Spectral: A person who can perceive the realm spirits inhabit and gives off spectral energy. Spectrals have different energy colors. - Spirit: A supernatural creature existing in a different plane of reality than we do. All of them have supernatural powers, and like spectrals, all of them have different energy colors.
When a spirit is mortally wounded, either it:
(a) Goes into an object. The object becomes what we know as a tool. (b) Goes into a person with matching spectral energy. The person becomes what we know as a medium. (c) Fails to to do any of the above and dies.
If a dying spirit manages to do (a), then the next thing it does is lure a spectral with a matching energy color to pick it up. If (b), then no luring is needed, for obvious reasons. The reason spirits may want to choose (a) or (b) is because trapped spirits absorb the spectral energy the spectrals give off unconsciously and infinitely, which allows them to regain their own strength and bring them back from the brink of death. The flip side to this is that the spectrals (whether through tools or possession) get to use the spirits' aforementioned supernatural powers at their leisure for the duration of their tool-wielding or possession. It becomes a symbiotic relationship: the spirit in the tool or the spectral gets free energy, and the spectral wielding the tool or being possessed gets superpowers.
Summary: Spectrals don't need tools to have powers. All they need is a dying spirit with a matching energy color to possess an object or themselves. |
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Star-E-Skies New Kid
Posts : 5 Join date : 2013-04-01
| Subject: Re: General Plot or World Questions Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:13 am | |
| Ah, I didn't realize the spirit could go into a spectral instead of an object! Thanks! Do we know what the island SpiderVoodoo is referring to is? |
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Cleverdan New Kid
Posts : 80 Join date : 2013-03-29
| Subject: Re: General Plot or World Questions Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:17 pm | |
| - Star-E-Skies wrote:
- Ah, I didn't realize the spirit could go into a spectral instead of an object! Thanks!
Do we know what the island SpiderVoodoo is referring to is? Pretty sure he was making a Lost joke. |
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Leo M. R. Spectral
Posts : 911 Join date : 2013-03-28
| Subject: Re: General Plot or World Questions Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:40 pm | |
| - Cleverdan wrote:
- Star-E-Skies wrote:
- Ah, I didn't realize the spirit could go into a spectral instead of an object! Thanks!
Do we know what the island SpiderVoodoo is referring to is? Pretty sure he was making a Lost joke. Has the joke been found? |
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Cleverdan New Kid
Posts : 80 Join date : 2013-03-29
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Star-E-Skies New Kid
Posts : 5 Join date : 2013-04-01
| Subject: Re: General Plot or World Questions Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:45 pm | |
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Leo M. R. Spectral
Posts : 911 Join date : 2013-03-28
| Subject: Re: General Plot or World Questions Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:50 pm | |
| - Star-E-Skies wrote:
- My bad ._.
Don't worry 'bout it! Got any other questions? I am a Paranaturalist, after all. This is kinda mys schtick. |
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